After. Completing all 3 phases I decided to get Jay's Mass-Ter plan. I'm gaining more size I'm now 239 LBS. Shooting for 250 then shred to 240-245 and then go compete. So far the Mass-Ter plan is the best money we'll spent. Arms alittle over 19 inches, chest 51 inches, waste 36 inches, thighs 28 inches, neck 18 1/2 inches. My diet is dialed in and I'm continuing to make those gains. All natty of course. Good luck to everyone. Anything is possible if you have the right mindset 💯.